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>> to bring us together. talk about those things that we sometimes don't want to talk about, racism and various other things. he took risks and didn't care. i heard a lot of people talk about those things that he did to help people. and that's what, you know, what i'm all about is helping people, whether people know about it or not. and so i respect him. some things like you said, you know, i was kind of risky. at the same time just a lovely man. you know, those moments that i've had that i spent with him, i really enjoyed. the man outside of the music.
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>> so we know that the world premier of your musical "born for this" debuts tonight in atlanta. if i'm not here, i'd be there with you face to face. should the people there, the audience, should they expect any tributes to prince tonight? >> well, one of the things that in the musical born for this, we celebrate whitney houston. and so someone came up to me after the preview yesterday and said, you know, this moment where you're celebrating whitney, i had a chance to celebrate prince as well. one of the things that we know, we'll have his music for the rest of our lives. so in that moment i think we celebrate prince as well when we celebrate whitney houston and what she gave us as well. so i think people will see that
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in that moment. >> although we've lost these icons, their music is still with us. as we've been told, there's a vault inside paisley park with hours and hours of unreleased material. we'll see if some of that comes to the public, if that comes to fruition any time soon. bebe winans, good to talk to you this morning. >> good to talk to you, sir. >> back to you. >> thank you, victor. still to come on "new day," the man who says there are two sides to donald trump. he should know, he's donald trump's senior adviser. (vo) whatever your perfect temperature... you'll enjoy consistent comfort with the heating and air conditioning systems homeowners rank number one.
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of missiles north korea has launched an apparent response to military drills between the u.s. and south korea. while he wouldn't comment on the test specifically, state department spokesman john kirby said launches using ballistic missile technology are a clear violation of multiple u.n. security council resolutions. north korea's launch ability from a joke to something serious and that the su.s. is watching this very closely this morning. >> thousands of people are gathered at a donald trump rally in connecticut. there's a live picture for you right now. this is the first of two in the state for him. this morning's appearance coming off the heels of his team offering an olive branch of sorts at a closed door meeting this week in florida, promising officials that trump's attacks on the party are just an act.
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>> when he's on the stage, when he's talking about the kinds of things he's talking about on the stump, he's projecting an image that's for that purpose. the play is evolving into the part that now we've been expecting but he wasn't ready for. >> it appears donald trump wasn't ready to give up that part last night. he railed against ted cruz and the delegate system again. take a listen. >> i have millions more votes than cruz, millions more votes than kasich. i have almost 300 more delegates and that cruz, even though it's a crooked system and he goes around taking them out, they take him out to dinner, they send him to hotels. it's such a crooked system, it's disgusting. >> so let's talk to paul manafort, the convention manager for the donald trump campaign. mr. manafort, thank you for being here. >> thank you, christi. you just reassured the rnc that trump's attacks were part of a persona. then we see him there last
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night. what would you say to the rnc this morning after his comments? >> well, i mean, his comments are consistent with what i was talking about. what i was talking about to the rnc because i was asked a question is that the trump campaign, which has been based on mr. trump's communication directly with the american people was going to be evolving into other forums as well where mr. trump would be speaking not different messages and different beliefs but in different settings, for example, in the foreign policy speech he's going to give next week, some of the things he's talked about in the rally but not in a different message. mr. trump next week will be still speaking about how he's going to build a wall, how he's going to end illegal immigration and the unfair trade deals. nowhere was i talking about there being a different donald trump. i was talking there being a different environment where a different part of the message would be presented in a way that was different from a campaign
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rally. so there would be no reason to change who the man has been probably the most effective modern communicator in politics certainly since reagan and reagan was a communicator who developed his message in 12 years, donald trump has done it in 12 months. he's a straight shooter, he understands people don't want anymore of the washington gridlock, they want someone who is going to represent their interests. and he's been clear about it. whether he says it at a rally in waterbury this afternoon or at the national press club next week, it's going to be the same message because that's who he believes and this campaign rhetoric by ted cruz that there are two different trumps is a subtory fuj by trump. he's distorting my words, which
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is probably why the moniker of lyin' ted has stuck. >> the tone, though, of donald trump no doubt is incendiary, not just to the rnc but to many people who are watching. and we heard your end of the conversation there on thursday with the rnc. what we haven't heard is how did the rnc officials react to your comments. >> what i was trying to tell the rnc this week was that donald trump understands that we need to unify the party. and i was telling him that sometime in mid may his path to 1,237 is going to be very clear. by june 7th when the california and new jersey primaries and the whole primary process ends, it's going to be evident that he's the nominee. as the leader of the republican party, it will be incumbent on the party to come together to do the things that are necessary to prepare for the november election. ted cruz said something which i agree with. he said a fractured convention is the worst thing that could happen to the republican party.
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i agree with that. in fact, when donald trump by the end of the process is beating ted cruz by 4 million or 5 million votes, when it's at 1,237 or better, it's time for the party to unite. >> do you think with the rhetoric we hear from donald trump as in what he was just saying about the way that the delegates are handled, is that a unifying tone? and is there neg that he can do, that trump can do, that he is willing to do shall i say, to better his relationship with the rnc? >> well, one of the reasons why donald trump has had such a response by the american people, including the political system, is because he speaks his mind, he speaks the truth, he speaks it clearly and in his comments there's always truth. what he's saying about the political process is transparency in the modern political times is confused. the voters think they're voting for candidate for president and they expect that vote to be
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meaningful. and when you break out the difference between a vote for the candidate and the delegates, those are two different things and trump started the conversation. he knows he's not going to change the rules in the middle of the stream. he doesn't want to. he's winning under these rules. but what he's saying is for the american people to believe in the system, you have to makes system transparent and real. just like he says the rigged banking system has to be changed. just like he says wall street has to be taken out of politics. what he says in all these messages is very consistent. ted cruz doesn't like that because he's losing to that and so he has to change the facts in order to change the narrative but it's not going to work. >> let me ask you, you are seasoned when it comes to campaigns, no doubt about it. you've worked for presidential campaigns with gerald formed, reagan, george h.w. bush, george bush, this is not new territory for you but i would think donald trump himself being as unconventional as he is is in
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territory. what would you -- when you first came on to this campaign, what was the first thing perhaps you felt like you wanted to modify, o change, the tackle ant his tone? do you think he sounds presidential? >> i didn't want to change anything. i just wanted it make sure the system didn't work against his interest and helped him to organize the campaign. he thought -- he recognized the need for an evolution of his campaign, not a change of his campaign. back in the beginning of the campaign, he understood he had to communicate his message and to do that he had to win states in order to have credibility. he did that overwhelmingly successfully. and in fact, he started with a field of 17 and he has led every -- in every part of the country, he's won states in every part of the country, he's the only one. >> but he's certainly different than the candidates that you've worked with in the past and do you argue that the presidential tone and the presidential
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atmosphere that we as a public are used to and the respect maybe that is given is -- it feels absent at times. >> well, every presidential campaign is different. and donald trump is a true outsider at a time when the american people are fed up with washington. they're fed up with gridlock, they're fed up with being told one thing and their leaders are doing another thing. they want a leader who says what he believes and when they vote for him will what what he believes. that's donald trump. >> you're looking at live pictures of donald trump as he is there in waterbury, connecticut. also i believe getting some live pictures of ted cruz. but, mr. manafort, you're going to stay with us. thank you for clarifying what some of these comments that we've been hearing about this week mean, that donald trump isn't necessarily going to change his tone but he's evolving. cnn also is just getting word
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that donald trump has dropped his dispute of colorado's delegate sweep by ted cruz. let's listen to trump. >> i want to thank build a wall. we'll build a wall, i promise. i promise, we will build a wall. if there's ever a second term, you'll say, man, he got that wall built fast, we're going to put him up. so we'll see. we'll build the wall. they love the wall. i love the wall, too. we need it. it's not like love. it's like we need it. i want to thank the fire marshall and his folks. they've been incredible. there are tremendous thousands of people outside trying to get in. they're keeping exits open, they've got them covered and everything else. i did say what's to burn, we got a concrete floor, right? but the fire marshall was fantastic. in stead of people object walking away, they got them in.
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i appreciate it. trump for truth. you better believe it. so waterbury. the other candidates doesn't even come up to connecticut and campaign. i've loved connecticut, i lived in connecticut. i love connecticut. actually lived here for a long time. i'll come back someday if i can ever slow down a little bit but i know it very well. but i also know the problems. oh, how did you lose general electric? you can't do this. fellas, how did you do this? >> donald trump speaking to a lively crowd in waterbury, connecticut. we'll continue to listen to this and have more with his convention manager paul manafort on the other side of the break. at discover, we treat you like you'd treat you. get the it card with late payment forgiveness. get your beauty sleep and use yonew aveeno®r?
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you are looking at duelling rallies, live pictures here of donald trump in connecticut on the left-hand side of your screen obviously. on the right we have ted cruz in pennsylvania as that fight for the gop primary delegates, numbers, votes, all of it in full swing this morning. and we're also back with paul manafort, the convention manager for the donald trump campaign. thank you so much for sticking around, mr. manafort. a colorado delegate named guy short told cnn that you said trump is dropping his dispute of ted cruz's delegate count in
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that state. is that true? >> that's not quite true. he had asked me what the situation was in colorado. i told him mr. trump's position is he thought the colorado situation was terrible because it cut the voters out. and there were a number of violations that were reported to us that were investigated. and if that investigation shows that facts -- what i told the individual who asked me what the status was, i said we're investigating the situation. he said, well, will you drop the case? i said if the case -- the fact finding doesn't allow us to present a case that is one that we should be heard but then we would consider it. even then we may still file it. the reality is that donald trump is very upset about the fact that voters were cut out of the process in colorado and upset with the tactics used to
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stronghold the delegates. >> thank you so much for taking the time, paul manafort. we appreciate it. we want to take you to pennsylvania, senator ted cruz holding his campaign stop there. he's heading to indiana for the rest of the weekend a little bit later. let's listen to what he's telling to the group of people obviously cheering him on. >> this next election is going to come down to three issues, jobs, freedom and security. let's start with jobs. i want to take a minute to talk to all the single moms who are here, who are working two and three part-time jobs, who have seen your hours forcibly reduced to 28, 29 hours a week because obama care kicks in at 30 hours a week. i want to talk to the truck drivers, steel workers, and men
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and women with callouss on your hands who have seen your wages stagnate year after year. the cost of living keeps going up yet somehow your paycheck doesn't keep pace. i want to talk to all the young people who are coming out of school with student loans up to their eyeballs, scared. can i get a job? what's my future hold? and you know, the mainstream media. they trial to tell us this is the new normal, this is as good as it gets. well, as the people of pennsylvania know, that is an utter lie. >> again, ted cruz there addressing some of the electorate in pennsylvania ahead of super tuesday. what will see pennsylvania, maryland, connecticut, rhode island all going to the polls. we're going to be back with more
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of this in just a moment. also the growing tributes for prince outside his minnesota home. victor blackwell is there live. we'll take you there in a moment. why do so many businesses rely on the us postal service? because when they ship with us, their business becomes our business. that's why we make more e-commerce deliveries to homes than anyone else in the country. here, there, everywhere. united states postal service priority: you i use what's already inside me to reach my goals. so i liked when my doctor told me i may reach my blood sugar and a1c goals by activating what's within me. with once-weekly trulicity. trulicity is not insulin. it helps activate my body to do what it's supposed to do release its own insulin.
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we all wake up and we're still having these moments of is it real? victor blackwell is live in minnesota outside paisley park and all the people that are gathering to honor prince and his life here in the midst of this investigation into his death. and, victor, i think it's just hard to absorb the fact that he's no longer here, that he's not writing music, although we know that there's this vault of music that perhaps somebody sometime at some point will release and will hear. i have a little secret for our viewers. victor has been very honest with me that if he got a chance to go
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listen to prince, he would leave me here staranded at the desk ad just walk away. i have to say, i agree with you. >> yes. i'm sure you understand that when i planned my vacation and it was just a few days before i was leaving and then it was announced prince was coming to perform in atlanta, i was quite disappointed and now knowing that would have been his last concert, we've had many people on our air who attended that concert, a very special moment. he sat down just with a piano and a microphone, two shows in atlanta and sang for 80 minutes each. some of the people who are coming here undoubtedly remember those epic concerts back in the 80s. you think about that purple rain tour and that iconic image of prince and the revolution with
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opening show with "let's go crazy." there are fans here outside of paisley park sharing stories and it's surprisingly quiet here. you'd expect to hear more music, more singing. but i think people here are coming to either see what has gr grown here, this memorial, the prince where prince performed, we're told by the mayor that the city is in conversation with the family of prince to determine if this will become a museum, what to do now with the facility. in addition to the facility, those tours. many people remember the award show performances, those who never saw him in person or came here to minnesota. and you'll remember maybe this one, when prince performed with beyonce for the grammy awards in 2004. i mean, this was a performance that was iconic and beyonce fans
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call it legendary. i talked to beyonce's father matthew knowles this morning. he said prince was a gentleman and team player. watch a portion of that interview. >> he had a passion for excellence. and he asked that of his entire team. beyonce learned a lot from that performance in 2004 and you can see that even today in the way that she approaches her tours. you know, prince did 39 studio albums, he did 28 tours. so his body of work is truly iconic. and princess was such a gentleman. he was really concerned to make sure as a young artist that she had the opportunity to present herself because she got to do "crazy in love" and he didn't have to do that. he could have said i'm prince, we're doing my songs. but he didn't. he truly was a team player for that. >> so iconic performances, very
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grand memory and then small memories, we're hearing from friends who were inside paisley park and saw some of the things many of us have never seen and stories we've never heard. we'll continue our coverage from minnesota and of course all the political stories of the day. we'll take a quick break and be right back. my advice for looking younger longer? get your beauty sleep and use new aveeno® absolutely ageless® night cream with active naturals® blackberry complex. younger looking skin can start today. new absolutely ageless® from aveeno®.
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recharged, back on the campaign trail today and not backing down from his attacks on hillary clinton. the two democrats are crisscrossing the northeast today ahead of tuesday's primaries. 384 delegates up for grabs as voters in five states head to the polls. the big prize here is pennsylvania. and after winning in new york, hillary clinton is dialing back a bit it seems on the attacks on her democrat being rival and rather focusing on gop front-runner donald trump's rhetoric on the campaign trail. >> it isn't really about me. i'm not going to respond to what he says about me. i'm going to respond to what he has said about women in general, i'm going to respond to what he has said about immigrants. >> let's talk to "new york times" columnist charles blow.
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do you see any way bernie sanders can make significant headway? >> the opposite is true. clinton has double-digit leads in pennsylvania, maryland, connecticut. she even has leads in, you know, the smaller states, rhode island, but they don't have as much polling as pennsylvania and maryland and connecticut, however. but, you know, unless all these polls are wrong -- >> which it could happen. they could be wrong. we've seen that. >> i always condition things that way. unless they're all wrong, which they could be, i don't see how that works. i don't see how it happens. and also the big states here are closed primary states, which do not allow independents to vote, which does not bode well for bernie, who has about a quarter to a third of his supporters in some of the states have been independents when they've had open primaries. these are not caucus states, which he has done particularly
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well in, these are primaries. so it doesn't look good for him. >> the sands are campaign manager says that they're working to flip super delegates. but when you look at this, you even wrote in the new york city that it's a bad idea but hillary clinton, she has more votes, she has more pledged, what do they think -- how do they think they're going to get a super delegate to shift that allegiance? >> well, specifically what weaver said and sanders had not said this himself, sanders said in cases where he has not won, he has given consideration to supporting him. weaver was making a different argument, which is if after june 7th, after all of the contests are finished, if hillary clinton still has more pledged delegates, has won more states, has the higher number of popular vote, that they would still try
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to convince the super delegates to overturn the will of the people. that is an extraordinary kind of claim or ambition from a candidate and from a campaign that has run as an anti-establishment campaign. because you're then asking the establishment, which is what the super delegates are, make no mistake about it, to overturn the will of the people. it kind of eats away at the very virtue of what makes bernie sanders and his campaign attractive in the first place. >> charles blow, i'm so sorry that we've run out of time. thank you for being with us. >> you're welcome. >> and of course we're going to talk more politics throughout the day. but still to come, the memories of prince, they just keep coming as fans -- take a look at this -- fans flocking to his memorial at paisley park. i want you to meet this week's
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next guest, w.kamau bell, he's the most of cnn's new series "shades of america." prince's music, those songs were undeniable and he was part of that movement as well. >> i think prince made himself available to everybody, no matter their race, gender or ethnicity, while at the same time i think he still maintained his identity as a black man and i think that's why it was such an important message for black people, you can live your blackness any way you want to. >> let's look ahead to your show that premieres this weekend, first episode coming out of the box with the kkk. tell me about the choice to start with that and that experience. >> well, the whole idea about the idea is me doing things that make me uncomfortable and you
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shouldn't do. if you're a black person in america and you want to make yourself uncomfortable, go talk to the ku klux klan. people think they're a relic of past but they're still out there and during obama's administration, their numbers have increased. >> so what did you find that you didn't expect? >> i guess i found that if you can sit down with somebody long enough and talk to somebody long enough, sometimes, not all the til sometimes, even if you disagree completely philosophically, you can understand their humanity. it didn't happen with all of them but i think some of them might have gone home and say i think i might like a black guy now. >> that should be a t-shirt. w. kamau bell.
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don't miss "the united shades of america" premiere sunday night at 10 p.m. eastern. i'm going to take a bit of license and call for my favorite prince song, christi, we have the video, prince's "adore." i think it is by far the best prince song, although i'm sure we would have a bit of a conversation out here with the more than hundred fans that have come here. what's yours? >> mine is still "let's go crazy." it's one of those that when you hear it, you can't help but move. they're playing this instead of "adore." i'm sorry. we'll get you "adore" later. >> that's okay. >> much more to come.
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. this is cnn break being news. >> hello, everyone. we start this hour with breaking news. i'm fredricka whitfield, a quote, very serious move out of north korea, the north reportedly firing what is believed to be a submarine launched ballistic missile off its east coast. officials in south korea say the missile flew about 19 miles before dropping into the sea. the south korea military is on high alert now. this missile went less than 20 miles. can that be judged a success or failure by the standards of those launching it?


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